[mkgmap-dev] one correction of default points style and a suggestion for lines

Fri Dec 3 11:58:06 GMT 2021

Hi Gerd/Ticker

Can I add the following based on various 'City Navigator Maps'

0 X 2E15 CLOTHING STORE , ie PRIMARK/NEXT
0 X 2E16 CULT CLOTHING /SHOES
0 X 2E17 GARDENING SUPPLIES & DESIGN NURSERY SHOP SELLING LAWN MOWERS
0 X 2E18 HOME IMPROVEMENTS B&Q/HOMEBASE
0 X 2E19 PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES
0 X 2E1A WORLD FURNITURE
0 X 2E1B OPTICIAN

Depending on device some may not be searchable.

r

Nick

On 03/12/2021 10:41, Ticker Berkin wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have no problem with getting rid of tags where there are no usages in
> OSM.
>
> It is best to use 0x2e00 for other/unknown/etc rather than 0x2e0c which
> was at the end of the list on old devices and showed as 'other'.
> My newer device has:
>
> 0x2e0c	Speciality Retail (also 0x2e0a)
> 0x2e0d	Shopping Center (also 0x2e04)
> 0x2e0e	Convenience (differs from 0x2e06 which implies fuel)
> 0x2e0f	Florist
> 0x2e10	Gift/Antique/Art
> 0x2e11	Record/CD/Video
> 0x2e12	Sporting Goods
> 0x2e13	Wine&Liqour
> 0x2e14	Book Store
>
> Not sure what would be the best code to use for kiosk
>
> Ticker
>
> On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 09:24 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> allmost all the rules regarding shop=* were added in 2011 and not
>> changed since.
>> A quick check against taginfo shows quite a few rules which make no
>> sense:
>> 0 occurences: shop=bakers [0x2e02 resolution 24]
>> 0 occurences: shop=car_dealer [0x2f07 resolution 24]
>> Well, they just blow up the style.
>>
>> On the other hand,
>> shop=kiosk has no special rule allthough it exists +86000 times:
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/shop=kiosk
>> I guess we should treat it like shop=convenience?
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dconvenience
>>
>> Other candidates:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dmobile_phone
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dalcohol
>>
>> Is there a special Garmin type for them that matches better than
>> 0x2e0c which is used in the mop up rule which only catches named
>> shops?
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>> von Gerd Petermann <gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com>
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Dezember 2021 09:53
>> An: Development list for mkgmap
>> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] one correction of default points style
>> and    a       suggestion for lines
>>
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> interesting, taginfo shows 0 occurences for amenity=emergency_phone:
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/amenity#values
>> I guess this was different when the line was added in 2011. See e.g.
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43747775
>> I would not want to place the rule
>> emergency=phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency Phone']
>> within the block of rules for amenity. Let's simply remove the wrong
>> one and add the new after that block.
>>
>> reg. roundabout:
>> I wonder why you don't want to add the line
>> junction=roundabout & highway=service [0x07 road_class=0 road_speed=1
>> resolution 23]
>>
>> Gerd
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
>> von 7770 <7770 at foskan.eu>
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Dezember 2021 21:31
>> An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
>> Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] one correction of default points style and
>> a      suggestion for lines
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Some time ago i ran into the mistake of tagging emergecy_phone as it
>> is given
>> in the default example style  ./mkgmap-
>> r4818/examples/styles/default/points
>> on line 148:
>> amenity=emergency_phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency
>> Phone']
>>
>> The correct tagging is however:
>> emergency=phone [0x2f12 resolution 24 default_name 'Emergency Phone']
>>
>> I have therefor updated this and i am attaching a suggested points
>> file.
>> I have done the following:
>> 1. add a comment on line 148 that the above tagging is incorrect.
>> 2. the original line is pushed one line down to 149 and commented
>> out.
>> 3. a new line 150 is added with the new tagging.
>>
>>
>> I checked most of Nordic countries and Baltic countries, there were
>> none
>> incorrectly tagged emergency phones, i havn't checked the rest of the
>> world,
>> but it seems that mistakes should be rare.
>>
>> If you dont mind and if you feel for it, feel free to add the changes
>> into the
>> default example style.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Secondly i have noted  that in the example lines file
>> ./mkgmap-r4818/examples/styles/default/lines
>> on line 123-143, the section about junction=roundabout, it would be
>> good to
>> add the following one line on line 143, and push the current line to
>> 144.
>> junction=roundabout & (service=alley | service=driveway) [0x07
>> road_class=0
>> road_speed=1 resolution 23]
>>
>> The reason for this suggestion is because of line 198 (or 199 after
>> the above
>> addition):
>> highway=service & (service=alley | service=driveway) [0x07
>> road_class=0
>> road_speed=0 resolution 23]
>>
>> The combination of these will make sure that roundabouts and highways
>> that are
>> marked:  highway=service & (service=alley | service=driveway) and can
>> be
>> connected to each other are drawn at the same resolution and with the
>> same
>> 0x07 type.
>> Otherwise the roundabout is becoming much larger and visible before
>> the
>> connecting street/road.
>>
>> I am attaching an updated lines file as well and again if you dont
>> mind and if
>> you feel for it, feel free to add the changes into the default
>> example style.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Karl
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