[mkgmap-dev] mkgmap:set_unconnected_type differentiate between connected on both sides or on one side only

Sun Sep 17 17:40:14 BST 2017

only 24% of service=driveway have access tagging (mostly access=private) -
however I guess 99% of those that are semi-connected and 99.99% that are
unconnected are really not needed in a general map (no matter if they are
private or not) - however you just cannot drop all service=driveways
without access tags except for an automotive map as that often leads to
missing important connectors and thereby big detours.

also it could be worth a try if long distance autorouting worked better if
a general rule in the finalize section or further in front like
highway=* & mkgmap:semi_connected=yes {road_class='-2' road_speed='-2'}
(or try with '-1') could improve routing results. But maybe they are
penalized by the garmin algorithm already enough anyhow. Now that rule
really won't work with the current way it works - and I don't even know it
will help. It's just something,that i would try out if it were possible.

On 17 September 2017 at 18:26, Felix Hartmann <extremecarver at gmail.com>
wrote:

> b) did not work when I tried it. I have a test file here (very simple):
> https://openmtbmap.org/wp-content/images/debug/driveways.osm
>
>
> oh yeah the idea why semi_connected is needed camp up because many (mainly
> highway=service & service=driveway  and no other tags )in France and
> Switzerland are actually needed to get from roads for cars onto
> pathes/tracks. Often through a supermarket parking or similar while
> highway=service & service=driveway (likewise with no other tag) but mostly
> connected only on one side to public roads - are used to map ways to access
> a private house door or garden - they really clutter up the map hence I
> want to remove them. And yes - sadly far too little driveways add a
> foot=yes or foot=designated, or access=yes/access=designated while also far
> too many really private ways lack a access=private. Some people in OSM
> understand that service=driveway means it public without other tags, while
> others understand that it's private.
>
> On 17 September 2017 at 18:14, Felix Hartmann <extremecarver at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've seen a couple - but yes - according to taginfo it's really little,
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/service=driveway
>> (most are highway=service, then residential and others are really really
>> little).
>>
>>
>> do you think you can change the behavior that b) will also work? If not
>> I'm just going to rewrite my rules for highway=service - and drop the idea
>> to get rid of track,residential, footway and path with service=driveway tag
>> (and hope this does not change in future).
>> All other things that are specified in {} brackets also work like b) -
>> that's why I thought it should work that way too.
>>
>>
>> Another possibility would be if it could be added to the finalize section
>> instead. So have in finalize section
>> ( highway=service | highway=track | highway=path | highway=footway |
>> highway=residential ) & service=driveway  {set
>> mkgmap:set_semi_connected_type=none; set mkgmap:set_unconnected_type=no
>> ne}
>> which would then overrule rules given higher up.
>> (I did not try if this will work already - but I guess not).
>>
>> On 17 September 2017 at 17:33, nwillink <osm at pinns.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gerd
>>>
>>> In the UK , frequently public footpaths are linked to someone's driveway
>>> - I
>>> have to say it's often quite 'daunting' to walk up someone's drive in
>>> order
>>> to continue along a public footpath.
>>>
>>> r
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
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>
>
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> Felix Hartman - Openmtbmap.org & VeloMap.org
> Schusterbergweg 32/8
> 6020 Innsbruck
> Austria - Österreich
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6020 Innsbruck
Austria - Österreich
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