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[mkgmap-dev] [Fwd: Re: Suggestions for roadNameConfig.txt]

From Gerd Petermann gpetermann_muenchen at hotmail.com on Thu Apr 16 12:28:28 BST 2020

Hi Ticker,

You say you don't like the result.
Does that mean you like it more with your long list of suffixes than with the short one?
I worry about road names like "The Parade". I didn't try it again but I think the suffixes are assumed to have no meaning without other words . In Germany, you rarely find a road with the suffix "Straße" that has a name like "Die Straße".

I think it would be better to remove the defaults for GBR and wait until someone says that they are missing it.

Gerd

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Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap at jagit.co.uk>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 13:09
An: Development list for mkgmap
Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] [Fwd: Re:  Suggestions for roadNameConfig.txt]

Hi Gerd

I did think about this, but --road-names-config is optional and behaves
as the documentation suggests and this patch includes a reasonably
complete list of suffixes for the UK and useful comments.

I tried it on my device and didn't like the effect and so don't use it,
Others might like it.

I've fixed Boulevard.

Ticker

On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 09:04 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
> Hi Ticker,
>
> did you consider disabling this feature for the UK? It looks wrong to
> me to have such a long list of rather meaningful names.
>
> BTW: Boulivard is probably a typo?
>
> Gerd
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
> von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap at jagit.co.uk>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. April 2020 10:35
> An: mkgmap development
> Betreff: [mkgmap-dev] [Fwd: Re:  Suggestions for roadNameConfig.txt]
>
> Hi Gerd
>
> Could you consider this change to roadNameConfig.txt for GBR
>
> I've attached an updated version based current trunk.o1
>
> Thank you
> Ticker
>
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> From: Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap at jagit.co.uk>
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> To: Development list for mkgmap <mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Suggestions for roadNameConfig.txt
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 16:56:17 +0000
>
> Hi Gerd
>
> I've just been going through some old mails/patches.
>
> I think the updated contents of roadNameConfig.txt is correct and
> better than the previous version.
>
> The fact that it doesn't work consistently across devices and, on
> some,
> is misleading shouldn't stop the file being available as an example
> in
> the distribution.
>
> The user has the choice about how to use it and it contains some
> comments and a link relating to these problems.
>
> I've attached an updated patch with UTF-8 encoding markers, a
> different
> section for UK road names and improved some comments.
>
> This file has always been read by mkgmap as UTF-8. The function of
> the
> markers is to make editors aware of this; it contains characters
> outside the 7-bit ascii range.
>
> Ticker
>
> On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 11:30 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
> > Hi Ticker,
> >
> > reg. search: You are probably right, address search works very
> > different on the Garmin devices. On the Oregon, I have several
> > dialogs, first to chose country, next to chose city or "all", next
> > to
> > type house number, last one asking for road name. In this dialog
> > there is no autocompletion, I just have to type characters.
> > Sometimes
> > the device switches automatically to a result list while I am
> > typing,
> > sometimes it doesn't. When I press OK I get a list of matching
> > roads.
> > So, for the Oregon it works fine. Maybe it doesn't for those
> > devices
> > with auto-completion. Cannot test this right now. I tried it once
> > with a Nüvi and it seemed to work well, but I don't own one.
> >
> > Reg. combination of   --road-name-config and --split-name-index:
> > Yes,
> > this gives confusing results. Not sure if it worked better in the
> > past.
> > I tried with Essex extract:
> > java -jar d:\mkgmap\dist\mkgmap.jar --bounds=f:\osm\bounds.zip -
> > -gmapi --net --index  --road-name
> > -config=d:\mkgmap\resources\roadNameConfig.txt --gmapsupp --split
> > -name-index f:\dwnload\temp\essex-latest.osm.pbf
> >
> >
> > According to Mapsource a search for "Mace" without giving a city
> > name
> > should list "John Mace Road", "Mace Avenue", "Mace Court", and
> > "Mace
> > Walk", maybe in a different order.
> > Without your patch I  get a list showing "Mace Road", "Mace
> > Avenue",
> > and "Mace Walk", so "Mace Court" is missing and when I select "Mace
> > Road" the device shows the "John Mace Road".
> > With your patch this gets worse: The list shows only "Mace Road",
> > when I select that entry I get a new list containing
> > ",Thurrock","Braintree,Essex","Chelmsford,Essex", and "Colchester,
> > Essex". Each of them points to just one of the expected roads.
> >
> > Results look much better when I specify a city name.
> > Result also looks very different without the --split-name-option.
> > I have to do more tests, I think it worked better in the past.
> > Maybe
> > sorting is broken.
> >
> > Gerd
>
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