[mkgmap-dev] Route Calculation Error and Ferries

Mon Mar 12 17:56:22 GMT 2018

Hi Gerd

I don't have either of these installed anywhere at the moment - I'll
download Basecamp and see how it behaves.

Ticker

On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 17:40 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
> Hi Ticker,
> 
> do you see the same problems in Mapsource  or Basecamp? If yes, I can
> try to find a reason.
> 
> Gerd
> 
> ________________________________________
> Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
> von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap at jagit.co.uk>
> Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2018 18:30:31
> An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Route Calculation Error and Ferries
> 
> Hi Gerd
> 
> I've tried navigating as both Pedestrian and as Car/Motorcycle.
> The Island (Isle of Wight) I'm trying to route to has 3 car ferries
> and
> 1 foot ferry.
> 
> All the ferries I'm trying have are set as toll (my style sets this
> for
> ferries unless they explicitly have tag toll=no). GPSMapEdit shows
> toll, along with no-one-way. I allow "toll" in the device routing
> options.
> 
> I only mentioned the order of points because the device requests a u
> -turn at the via point. I don't think point order is the problem
> because
> creating a device-route back along the same ferry doesn't work
> either.
> 
> The one ferry I've found that does work leaves from the same jetty as
> a
> failing one, but doesn't go to the island - ie it's destination can
> be
> navigated to via the road/trail network without a ferry journey.
> 
> Ticker
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 16:42 +0000, Gerd Petermann wrote:
> > Hi Ticker,
> > 
> > the direction should not matter. What vehicle do you use for
> > routing?
> > The one that works has no toll=yes tag. Maybe your style does
> > something special with toll=*?
> > 
> > Gerd
> > 
> > ________________________________________
> > Von: mkgmap-dev <mkgmap-dev-bounces at lists.mkgmap.org.uk> im Auftrag
> > von Ticker Berkin <rwb-mkgmap at jagit.co.uk>
> > Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2018 16:46:02
> > An: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> > Betreff: Re: [mkgmap-dev] Route Calculation Error and Ferries
> > 
> > Using GPSMapEdit to look at the coordinates of the first point in
> > the
> > ferry way, the one that worked has the points in the direction of
> > travel, and the one that didn't has them the other way around (but
> > neither is marked one-way)
> > 
> > Ticker
> > 
> > On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 15:31 +0000, Ticker Berkin wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > I almost always get "Route Calculation Error" on my Garmin when a
> > > ferry
> > > crossing is required. GPSMapEdit "Tools > Test Routing Graph"
> > > does
> > > find
> > > the routes and it shows reasonable properties for the ferries,
> > > walkways
> > > and relevant roads.
> > > 
> > > I'm testing it with a mix of foot and car ferries. In the routing
> > > options, all "Avoids" are turned off (ie allow tolls, unpaved,
> > > etc)
> > > 
> > > If I create a "Route" on the device, with a "Via Point" on the
> > > ferry
> > > line, and then navigate this route, it works, except immediately
> > > after
> > > the "via point" it gives the instruction is "Make a U-turn"
> > > 
> > > This ferry works:
> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/3533551
> > > 
> > > These don't:
> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/614416
> > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/614415
> > > 
> > > Any thoughts
> > > 
> > > Ticker
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