[mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600
From michael lohr micha.lohr at web.de on Thu Jun 4 10:51:26 BST 2015
Hi Gerd,
in 3602 (which i used) these are lines 118/119.
I meantchanging
highway=motorway_link [0x09 road_class=3 road_speed=2 resolution 20]
to
highway=motorway_link { name 'generic_exit' } [0x02 road_class=3
road_speed=2 resolution 20]
Micha
Am 04.06.2015 um 11:47 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
> Hi Micha,
>
> lines 119 and 120 in lines (r3605) are:
> highway=motorway_link & (mkgmap:exit_hint=true |
> mkgmap:dest_hint=true) [0x06 road_class=3 road_speed=2 resolution 20]
> highway=motorway_link [0x09 road_class=3 road_speed=2 resolution 20]
>
> If you change line 119 as suggested the rule in line 120
> is never triggered, therefore you will not have a type 0x09 for the
> motorway_link.
>
> Gerd
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:36:01 +0200
> From: micha.lohr at web.de
> To: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600
>
> Hi Gerd,
> trying to reproduce the problem with the default style made things
> clearer. If you change line 119 in "lines" to:
>
> highway=motorway_link { name 'generic_exit' } [0x02 road_class=3
> road_speed=2 resolution 20]
>
> routing hints point to "generic_exit". I did a few more test, and it
> seems that there's two ways to get proper routing:
>
> 1. Make segments 1 & 3 polyline 0x09 (named or not doesn't matter),
> and segment 2 any type except 0x08 or 0x09 (didn't test that, taken
> from the documentation)
> 2. If segments 1 & 3 are not 0x09 then don't name them, and again
> segment 2 any type except 0x08 or 0x09
>
> Micha
>
> Am 04.06.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
>
> Hi Micha,
>
> it's hard to understand without seeing your complete style.
> Maybe you can post a link to it?
> If not, please describe in detail how to reproduce the problem
> with the default style and give an example route
> that shows what you get with and without the modification.
>
> thanks,
> Gerd
>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:20:23 +0200
> From: micha.lohr at web.de <mailto:micha.lohr at web.de>
> To: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> <mailto:mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600
>
> Hi Gerd,
> my style did (in this order) assign hints to exits, and at the
> very end, assign generic names to all "leftover" unnamed roads.
> This produced exits in 3 segments named "GENERIC_NAME",
> "EXIT_HINT", "GENERIC_NAME" - so mkgmap worked just as expected.
> But: the Oregon now shows "GENERIC_NAME" during routing, not
> "EXIT_HINT". After removing the generic names from the 1st and the
> 3rd segment, everything workes fine.
>
> So I draw two conclusions from this:
>
> Either: mkgmap simly assigns the exit hints to all 3 segments (do
> we need 3 segments at all, then?), though I don't know what else
> might be influenced by this
>
> Or: documentation needs to be updated concerning the exit_hints
>
> Micha
>
>
> Am 04.06.2015 um 09:09 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
>
> Hi Micha,
>
> now I am no longer sure what you are talking about. You said
> that your
> problem was solved by removing the line
> highway=motorway_link & mkgmap:label:1!=* { set mkgmap:label:1
> = 'Exit' }
> from your style. I tried to find out why this line
> causes trouble and found no reason as long
> as the line doesn't appear before the blocks for the hints
> which start at line 36 in the default style file lines of r3605:
> (highway=motorway_link | highway=trunk_link) &
> mkgmap:exit_hint=true & mkgmap:dest_hint=true
> ....
>
> I don't use the device for testing, I create a route in
> MapSource and check
> the list of "directions".
>
> Gerd
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:56:37 +0200
> From: micha.lohr at web.de <mailto:micha.lohr at web.de>
> To: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> <mailto:mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600
>
> Hi Gerd,
> the exits were always named correctly, I checked that by
> looking directly into the img-files. The GPS just wouldn't
> display the hint.
>
> Am 04.06.2015 um 07:19 schrieb Gerd Petermann:
>
> Hi Micha,
>
> I cannot yet reproduce your result. I tried this:
> Add the line
>
> highway=motorway_link & mkgmap:label:1!=* { set
> mkgmap:label:1 = 'Exit' }
>
> in the default style file at line 65, before the line
>
> highway=* {name '${name}' | '${ref}' }
>
> Execute mkgmap with options --route --process-exits
> --process-destinationand this modified style.
> I see the right hint for node 988993419.
>
> Maybe you placed the line before those for the exit hint?
> In that case it is clear that the exit hints don't work
> because those rules
> use the name action which has no effect when
> mkgmap:label:1 is already set.
>
> If that doesn't help, please provide more details.
>
> Gerd
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 18:47:00 +0200
> From: micha.lohr at web.de <mailto:micha.lohr at web.de>
> To: mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk
> <mailto:mkgmap-dev at lists.mkgmap.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600
>
> Hi Gerd, hi Bernd
> it works because the default style does not name the outer
> segments (intentionally?). My style treated exits pretty
> much the same way, with one addition:
>
> highway=motorway_link & mkgmap:label:1!=* { set
> mkgmap:label:1 = 'Exit' }
>
> Deleting this line and so not naming the outer segments
> did the trick. As far as I can tell, line type does not
> make any difference.
>
> Micha
>
> Am 03.06.2015 um 18:29 schrieb GerdP:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> please check how the default style uses the hint. I think it works
> fine.
>
> Gerd
>
>
> michael lohr wrote
>
> Hi Gerd,
> my 1st assumption was that I set the road_speed too high, and the
> routing would "jump" overthe 2nd part to the 3rd, 2nd assumption was to
> use a different line type - changing both things made no difference.
>
> Am 03.06.2015 um 17:59 schrieb GerdP:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
>
> michael lohr wrote
>
> Finally found the reason: my style assigns generic names to unnamed
> roads, so the segments of a motorway_link were named "GENERIC_NAME",
> "EXIT_HINT", "GENERIC_NAME". As soon as a name is present on either the
> 1st or the 3rd segment the Oregon would use this name for routing (btw,
> contrary the my previous posts: the Oregon 450 also behaves like that).
>
> Which brings up this question: why not assign the exit_hint to all 3
> segments in the first place?
>
> My understanding is that the style should be able to use a different
> type (not 0x08 / 0x09) for that small 2nd part, so that Garmin uses
> the name of it as a hint.
>
> Gerd
>
>
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