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    <font face="Verdana">Hi Gerd</font><br>
    yes all fine - we should just update the documentation: I didn't
    know 08 and 09 are special and had to find out the hard way...<br>
    <br>
    Micha<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 04.06.2015 um 11:57 schrieb Gerd
      Petermann:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Micha,<br>
        <br>
        okay, same effect: no 0x09 type for the motorway_link.<br>
        My understanding is that the types 0x08 and 0x09 are special<br>
        as they tell Garmin to use the name of the next road which
        doesn't <br>
        have 0x08 or 0x09 as the hint.<br>
        <br>
        So, you need a part of the link that is 0x08/0x09 and<br>
        the hint on the next part of the link which is NOT 0x08/0x09.<br>
        <br>
        That's what the default style does. OK?<br>
        <br>
        Gerd<br>
        <br>
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          <hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:51:26 +0200<br>
          From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
            href="mailto:micha.lohr@web.de">micha.lohr@web.de</a><br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
            href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
          Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600<br>
          <br>
          Hi Gerd,<br>
          in 3602 (which i used) these are lines 118/119.<br>
          <br>
          I meant changing<br>
          <br>
          highway=motorway_link [0x09 road_class=3 road_speed=2
          resolution 20]<br>
          <br>
          to<br>
          <br>
          highway=motorway_link { name 'generic_exit' } [0x02
          road_class=3 road_speed=2 resolution 20]<br>
          <br>
          Micha<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Am 04.06.2015 um 11:47 schrieb
            Gerd Petermann:<br>
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            cite="mid:DUB112-W5609AC80D7B8B9CBFCF38D9EB30@phx.gbl">
            <div dir="ltr">Hi Micha,<br>
              <br>
              lines 119 and 120  in lines (r3605) are:<br>
              highway=motorway_link &amp; (mkgmap:exit_hint=true |
              mkgmap:dest_hint=true) [0x06 road_class=3 road_speed=2
              resolution 20]<br>
              highway=motorway_link [0x09 road_class=3 road_speed=2
              resolution 20]<br>
              <br>
              If you change line 119 as suggested the rule in line 120<br>
              is never triggered, therefore you will not have a type
              0x09 for the <br>
              motorway_link.<br>
              <br>
              Gerd<br>
              <br>
              <br>
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                <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 11:36:01
                +0200<br>
                From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                  href="mailto:micha.lohr@web.de">micha.lohr@web.de</a><br>
                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon 600<br>
                <br>
                Hi Gerd,<br>
                trying to reproduce the problem with the default style
                made things clearer. If you change line 119 in "lines"
                to:<br>
                <br>
                highway=motorway_link { name 'generic_exit' } [0x02
                road_class=3 road_speed=2 resolution 20]<br>
                <br>
                routing hints point to "generic_exit". I did a few more
                test, and it seems that there's two ways to get proper
                routing:<br>
                <br>
                1. Make segments 1 &amp; 3 polyline 0x09 (named or not
                doesn't matter), and segment 2 any type except 0x08 or
                0x09 (didn't test that, taken from the documentation)<br>
                2. If segments 1 &amp; 3 are not 0x09 then don't name
                them, and again segment 2 any type except 0x08 or 0x09<br>
                <br>
                Micha<br>
                <br>
                <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Am 04.06.2015 um 09:30
                  schrieb Gerd Petermann:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Micha,<br>
                    <br>
                    it's hard to understand without seeing your complete
                    style.<br>
                    Maybe you can post a link to it?<br>
                    If not, please describe in detail how to reproduce
                    the problem<br>
                    with the default style and give an example route<br>
                    that shows what you get with and without the
                    modification.<br>
                    <br>
                    thanks,<br>
                    Gerd<br>
                    <br>
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                      <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015
                      09:20:23 +0200<br>
                      From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:micha.lohr@web.de">micha.lohr@web.de</a><br>
                      To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                        href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
                      Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and Oregon
                      600<br>
                      <br>
                      Hi Gerd,<br>
                      my style did (in this order) assign hints to
                      exits, and at the very end, assign generic names
                      to all "leftover" unnamed roads. This produced
                      exits in 3 segments named "GENERIC_NAME",
                      "EXIT_HINT", "GENERIC_NAME" - so mkgmap worked
                      just as expected. But: the Oregon now shows
                      "GENERIC_NAME" during routing, not "EXIT_HINT".
                      After removing the generic names from the 1st and
                      the 3rd segment, everything workes fine.<br>
                      <br>
                      So I draw two conclusions from this:<br>
                      <br>
                      Either: mkgmap simly assigns the exit hints to all
                      3 segments (do we need 3 segments at all, then?),
                      though I don't know what else might be influenced
                      by this<br>
                      <br>
                      Or: documentation needs to be updated concerning
                      the exit_hints<br>
                      <br>
                      Micha<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Am 04.06.2015 um
                        09:09 schrieb Gerd Petermann:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Hi Micha,<br>
                          <br>
                          now I am no longer sure what you are talking
                          about. You said that your<br>
                          problem was solved by removing the line <br>
                          highway=motorway_link &amp; mkgmap:label:1!=*
                          { set mkgmap:label:1 = 'Exit' } <br>
                          from your style. I tried to find out why this
                          line<br>
                          causes trouble and found no reason as long<br>
                          as the line doesn't appear before the blocks
                          for the hints<br>
                          which start at line 36 in the default style
                          file lines of r3605:<br>
                          (highway=motorway_link | highway=trunk_link)
                          &amp; mkgmap:exit_hint=true &amp;
                          mkgmap:dest_hint=true<br>
                          ....<br>
                          <br>
                          I don't use the device for testing, I create a
                          route in MapSource and check<br>
                          the list of "directions".<br>
                          <br>
                          Gerd<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
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                            <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Thu, 4 Jun
                            2015 08:56:37 +0200<br>
                            From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="mailto:micha.lohr@web.de">micha.lohr@web.de</a><br>
                            To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                              href="mailto:mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk">mkgmap-dev@lists.mkgmap.org.uk</a><br>
                            Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev] process-exits and
                            Oregon 600<br>
                            <br>
                            Hi Gerd,<br>
                            the exits were always named correctly, I
                            checked that by looking directly into the
                            img-files. The GPS just wouldn't display the
                            hint.<br>
                            <br>
                            <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Am
                              04.06.2015 um 07:19 schrieb Gerd
                              Petermann:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote
                              cite="mid:DUB112-W12955D02BF1E220D9BD2E199EB30@phx.gbl">
                              <div dir="ltr">Hi Micha,<br>
                                <br>
                                I cannot yet reproduce your result. I
                                tried this:<br>
                                Add the line<br>
                                <br>
                                highway=motorway_link &amp;
                                mkgmap:label:1!=* { set mkgmap:label:1 =
                                'Exit' } <br>
                                <br>
                                in the default style file at line 65,
                                before the line<br>
                                <br>
                                highway=* {name '${name}' | '${ref}' }<br>
                                <br>
                                Execute mkgmap with options --route
                                --process-exits --process-destinationand
                                this modified style. <br>
                                I see the right hint for node 988993419.<br>
                                <br>
                                Maybe you placed the line before those
                                for the exit hint?<br>
                                In that case it is clear that the exit
                                hints don't work because those rules <br>
                                use the name action which has no effect
                                when mkgmap:label:1 is already set.<br>
                                <br>
                                If that doesn't help, please provide
                                more details.<br>
                                <br>
                                Gerd<br>
                                <br>
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                                  <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Wed, 3
                                  Jun 2015 18:47:00 +0200<br>
                                  From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    href="mailto:micha.lohr@web.de">micha.lohr@web.de</a><br>
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                                  Subject: Re: [mkgmap-dev]
                                  process-exits and Oregon 600<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Hi Gerd, hi Bernd<br>
                                  it works because the default style
                                  does not name the outer segments
                                  (intentionally?). My style treated
                                  exits pretty much the same way, with
                                  one addition:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  highway=motorway_link &amp;
                                  mkgmap:label:1!=* { set mkgmap:label:1
                                  = 'Exit' }<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Deleting this line and so not naming
                                  the outer segments did the trick. As
                                  far as I can tell, line type does not
                                  make any difference.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Micha<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="ecxmoz-cite-prefix">Am
                                    03.06.2015 um 18:29 schrieb GerdP:<br>
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                                    cite="mid:1433348970255-5846980.post@n5.nabble.com">
                                    <pre>Hi Michael,

please check how the default style uses the hint. I think it works
fine.

Gerd


michael lohr wrote
</pre>
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                                      <pre>Hi Gerd,
my 1st assumption was that I set the road_speed too high, and the 
routing would "jump" overthe 2nd part to the 3rd, 2nd assumption was to 
use a different line type - changing both things made no difference.

Am 03.06.2015 um 17:59 schrieb GerdP:
</pre>
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                                        <pre>Hi Michael,


michael lohr wrote
</pre>
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                                          <pre>Finally found the reason: my style assigns generic names to unnamed
roads, so the segments of a motorway_link were named "GENERIC_NAME",
"EXIT_HINT", "GENERIC_NAME". As soon as a name is present on either the
1st or the 3rd segment the Oregon would use this name for routing (btw,
contrary the my previous posts: the Oregon 450 also behaves like that).

Which brings up this question: why not assign the exit_hint to all 3
segments in the first place?
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                                        <pre>My understanding is that the style should be able to use a different
type (not 0x08 / 0x09) for that small 2nd part, so that Garmin uses
the name of it as a hint.

Gerd



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