[mkgmap-dev] unpaved roads

Tue Feb 7 11:39:49 GMT 2017

I don't agree with you. I think default style is a generic style, and as 
such, it shouldn't do much guess but use the strict meaning of tags. 
Gravel, fine_gravel, ice, etc. are strictly unpaved and I would mark 
them as such in default style. More specific uses (mtb/race 
bicycle/4wd...) require specific maps and thus specific styles.
@Mark: I'm also cyclist and for mtb use your "raining" point of view of 
paved/unpaved is important to be considered.

El 07/02/17 a las 11:57, Nuno Pedrosa escribió:
> Hi! In Portugal, Spain and surely a little all around, unpaved gravel 
> roads are common, even on urban neighbourhoods.
> These are quite drivable and they will often be the only way to get to 
> some places. They are also suitable to all vehicles, even if they will 
> get covered in dirt.
> There are also a lot of paths going through sand (forest roads) and 
> these will unsuitable to most vehicles (even a lot of 4x4s), 
> regardless of their width.
>
> I find that while driving, the real issue will be the road conditions 
> and width. Will the unpaved road be wide enough for a car or light 
> truck? Will it have deep tracks due to soil erosion? Will the surface 
> be solid enough to drive in a regular car?
>
> So, in real world GPS usage, I would like unpaved to mean “narrow, 
> earth roads”, while paved would mean any road suitable to all regular 
> vehicles.
> Example: due to wind farms being built in a lot of hill ranges, large, 
> unpaved roads were built. These are gravel, wide roads, and often are 
> a better option to the paved, sinuous mountain roads that go around 
> every nook and cranny in the valleys.
>
> So, I think that fine_gravel, salt and ice should still be “paved”.
>
> Nuno Pedrosa.
>
> PS: Sorry to “butt in” the talk. I’m usually silent in this list, 
> though I read most of the discussions. Your work is amazing and I find 
> that I can add little to what is being discussed, so I try to keep my 
> “noise” to a minimum!
>
>
>> On 7 Feb 2017, at 09:40, lig fietser <ligfietser at hotmail.com 
>> <mailto:ligfietser at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd call that semi-paved but Garmin doesn't have such category 
>> unfortunately. Since the default style main focus is on motor 
>> vehicles I'd suggest to add surfaces like fine_gravel, salt, ice to 
>> the unpaved list. And please add soil to it, it seems a quite popular 
>> tag.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Gerd wrote
>> This "raining" part is probably what paved/unpaved is about: The 
>> surface of a paved road should not change when it's raining
>> and your vehicle will not be covered with dirt when traveling on a 
>> paved road while it is raining (at least not from dirt which was part 
>> of the surface).
>>
>> Do you agree on that (last sentence)?
>>
>> Gerd